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[00:02]<@BC_Programming> Craig yes it will probably need the right producer code
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[00:02]<@BC_Programming> let me generate a proper code
[00:04]<@BC_Programming> 000400 would be 154162153-JII
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[02:18]<+Craig> Hey BC_Programming
[02:18]<+Craig> How goes it?
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[03:15]<@BC_Programming> Craig, did you see my last note
[03:15]<@BC_Programming> " 000400 would be 154162153-JII"
[03:15]<+Craig> I did,
[03:15]<+Craig> But its 004000
[03:16]<+Craig> :P
[03:16]<@BC_Programming> Oh, I see you corrected it
[03:16]<@BC_Programming> that is 150162153-FII
[03:22]<+Craig> Interesting, not different than the original 000000 code. I wonder if they even parse the first three digits?
[03:26]<@BC_Programming> It only uses the last three digits
[03:27]<@BC_Programming> according to the comments it returns a "regirstration" number. I wonder if that is like a registration number heh
[03:27]<+Craig> Bahahaha, they spelled it incorrectly in the code?
[03:27]<@BC_Programming> in the code comments
[03:27]<+Craig> Hahaha thats funny,
[03:28]<+Craig> So what version did you try to install on your 3.1 machine?
[03:28]<@BC_Programming> The latest one, I don't remember the specific number
[03:28]<+Craig> 2.04
[03:28]<@BC_Programming> I had to copy the database files as apparently it doesn't work with the ones it installs
[03:28]<+Craig> Could you try running 1.09? He says its more stable?
[03:28]<+Craig> Yeah I am not sure about all that, there are some issues with his backups.
[03:29]<@BC_Programming> Could be why the inventory stuff crashed
[03:29]<+Craig> Possibly,
[03:30]<+Craig> If we could start a new clean database that would be helpful, but then we would need test data....
[03:30]<+Craig> So many problems. :P We need more solutions. hahaha
[03:31]<@BC_Programming> I don't suppose it writes any debug logs or something? there are some references in the source, I could see if I can find a location
[03:33]<+Craig> Not that I know of, but that would be helpful. :)
[03:34]<@BC_Programming> This is what our Inventory screen looks like: http://www.bc-programming.com/misc/inventory.png
[03:36]<+Craig> Cool, lots of data rows there, is that an entry screen or a recall screen?
[03:37]<@BC_Programming> Both, It is where new items are created or existing items can be loaded and edited
[03:37]<+Craig> Ahhh interesting
[03:39]<@BC_Programming> That is why I wanted to see the inventory in that program since it has overlap
[03:40]<+Craig> Ahhh that would be cool,
[03:41]<+Craig> Well, I think 1.09 may work,
[03:41]<+Craig> I have not been able to view reports, but the inventory will load if you open it,
[03:41]<@BC_Programming> did you not have to change the database file?
[03:41]<@BC_Programming> or perhaps the database was for the earlier version and that was why it crashed I guess
[03:42]<+Craig> Not sure, We had 1.09 installed first, and the database opened in both,
[03:42]<+Craig> but we couldn't run any reports,
[03:42]<+Craig> we did however get into the Inventory view.
[03:44]<@BC_Programming> Oh, I see v109 also has a source code folder
[03:44]<+Craig> Did it really?
[03:45]<+Craig> Also, I do have other CD's if you wanted me to look through them, I could give them to you as well. :P
[03:45]<@BC_Programming> the "VSS Version" and "v109 Dev" folders
[03:45]<@BC_Programming> VSS I'd guess stands for Visual Source Safe
[03:46]<@BC_Programming> I wonder why one of their customers would have the source code? they distributed it kind of weird
[03:46]<+Craig> I think that was give out after they cancelled the project.
[03:46]<@BC_Programming> That makes sense I guess
[03:47]<@BC_Programming> The older version appears to use fewer custom controls too, might be easier to open the source code
[03:47]<+Craig> Oh that would be fantastic,
[03:47]<@BC_Programming> still uses that TrueGrid thing.... I wonder if I'd be able to swap that for the default DBGrid control
[03:48]<+Craig> I talked to the customer today, :P They keep wanting you get you to Upgrade the whole thing :p
[03:48]<+Craig> Oh that would be helpful,
[03:49]<+Craig> I told them that, at best, we would be able to do bug fixing, and only if a few things fell into place.
[03:49]<@BC_Programming> Well those black-box MS-DOS programs that get used would be a trouble spot for any attempt to bring it forward I think
[03:49]<+Craig> I agree completely,
[03:49]<@BC_Programming> and like you said it was those that were mostly having problems too, which makes sense on say XP if they are MS-DOS programs
[03:50]<+Craig> Yeah
[03:50]<@BC_Programming> I wonder if perhaps some of those other CDs might have the C source to those programs?
[03:50]<+Craig> I can look,
[03:54]<+Craig> Gotta love when a customer backs up the Icon of the program as a backup...
[03:57]<+Craig> https://nextcloud.brokedcomputer.ca/index.php/s/jYpbX5qW2426qzQ
[03:58]<+Craig> Thats all the rest of the files on all the CD's I have, excluding the Icon file. :P
[04:12]<@BC_Programming> Nothing there, I did get the source to compile, though it seems that without that truegrid license it is tricky to edit the source
[04:12]<+Craig> Hmmm,
[04:12]<+Craig> Yeah
[04:12]<+Craig> Any luck, "sourcing" it?
[04:12]<@BC_Programming> also testing since even when running it will crash if something is shown with the grid
[04:13]<+Craig> Oh thats interesting
[04:13]<@BC_Programming> No... it's a lot harder to find older stuff it seems
[04:13]<+Craig> Right!?
[04:13]<@BC_Programming> Also funny is when that happens they have this error handler that asks "Unload entire program?"
[04:13]<+Craig> HAHAHA, really? Why would it ask that?
[04:14]<@BC_Programming> Also all the text messages seem to be part of the database... for multilanguage it looks like
[04:15]<+Craig> Oh thats interesting,
[04:15]<+Craig> So its probably the plugin program that is more the issue?
[04:16]<@BC_Programming> I expect if I build the program it would run outside of the IDE, but it won't let you use it from within Visual Basic for testing or for changing layouts and such
[04:34]<@BC_Programming> So far the closest I can get to the proper installer for using the TrueGrid in VB is dead links
[04:42]<+Craig> Well its bedtime for me. :P
[04:45]<@BC_Programming> ok, night
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[19:08]<+Craig> Hey BC_Programming
[19:08]<+Craig> How goes it today?
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[23:42]<@BC_Programming> Hi Craig
[23:48]<+Craig> How is it going?